tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post4459644388443893137..comments2023-10-03T01:52:15.449+05:30Comments on Opinionated: Azadi for Kashmir1conoclasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10114255456767684236noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-86923172801418485202008-09-08T19:23:00.000+05:302008-09-08T19:23:00.000+05:30And this is what Bastiat Prize for Journalism winn...And this is what Bastiat Prize for Journalism winner Amit Varma has to say:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://indiauncut.com/iublog/article/do-you-think-kashmir-is-an-integral-part-of-india/" REL="nofollow">http://indiauncut.com/iublog/article/do-you-think-kashmir-is-an-integral-part-of-india/</A>1conoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114255456767684236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-54174062146515903552008-09-08T18:18:00.000+05:302008-09-08T18:18:00.000+05:30One thing I'd like to point out is that we are...One thing I'd like to point out is that we are probably taking this patriotism thing too seriously.<BR/>We never heard an outcry when UP was sliced into Uttaranchal & UP, or when MP when sliced into Chhatisgarh & MP, or when Jharkhand was carved out from the heart of Bihar. Why? Simply because they're still within our territorial borders?<BR/>Is it possible that the UP-ite, MP-ite & Bihari felt hurt at the division?<BR/><BR/>If that is the case, why is there so much of a fuss over Kashmir?<BR/>Our uber-nationalism?<BR/><BR/>I'm just asking. I personally don't want to lose Kashmir as a state.1conoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114255456767684236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-20452565191863412612008-09-08T15:31:00.000+05:302008-09-08T15:31:00.000+05:30Well written...In fact I wrote a similar poast few...Well written...<BR/><BR/>In fact I wrote a similar poast few days ago<BR/><BR/>http://nimis540.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/did-you-know-this-about-jammu-and-kashmir/<BR/><BR/>But I was attacked from all sides ,that I am being anti-national,Im being extremista talking againat national integrity..bla bla bla..<BR/><BR/>In fact I was only trying to share the concern that the people of kashmir have to suffer simply for the sake of our security concern..<BR/><BR/><BR/>Dispute for 'Azad Kashmir' can't be compared with those outcries from punjab,assam or Maharsatra,as the later ones are simply anti-national..They are part of India,whereas,Kashmir is/was a temporary setup done by Hari Singh,bcoz he needed our support to fight against riot then..that doesn't mean Kashmir is ours..<BR/><BR/>I believe that my antion,india,is mighty enough to take care of seciruty concerns.By claming that "if kashmir is gone,we are in danger",We are doing nothing better than Amrica who bombs every corner of the world,in the name of their own secirity..<BR/><BR/><BR/>As UN says it,let people of Kashmir decide what they want..<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Good day<BR/>NimmyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-52917759307249475932008-09-08T11:19:00.000+05:302008-09-08T11:19:00.000+05:30Among these voices you actually hear things like '...Among these voices you actually hear things like 'Kashmiris are pampered' and 'treated with kid gloves'.. sheesh!<BR/><BR/>They have no idea what they're talking.Yaamynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13486967702707441314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-19425253395386920962008-09-07T17:47:00.000+05:302008-09-07T17:47:00.000+05:30hey yaamyn, before i comment on your post (which i...hey yaamyn, before i comment on your post (which i will do shortly and after i read your response...could you please enlighten me as to what and who do you define as a kashmiri.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-89577424088456257602008-09-07T12:36:00.000+05:302008-09-07T12:36:00.000+05:30There are other voices saying what Arundhati is sa...There are other voices saying what Arundhati is saying. Malavika Sanghvi says pretty much the same thing (http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1185295&pageid=0). Omar Abdullah has been requesting autonomy as well.<BR/><BR/>All voices of reason are drowned out by te loud rhetoric of people who know nothing about the ground realities.1conoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114255456767684236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-80955497811562733502008-09-07T11:47:00.000+05:302008-09-07T11:47:00.000+05:30yaamyn,:-)yaamyn,<BR/><BR/>:-)1conoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114255456767684236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-10024248938664843942008-09-05T14:47:00.000+05:302008-09-05T14:47:00.000+05:30@indian home maker:I understand your concerns abou...@indian home maker:<BR/><BR/>I understand your concerns about a 'domino' effect in the event of Kashmir seceding from India.<BR/><BR/>But you must also understand that Kashmir <I>cannot</I> be treated same as any other state in India for the simple fact that it was a precondition for the temporary accession to the Indian union that Kashmir maintain its autonomy.<BR/><BR/>It's sort of like a contract between the Indian people and the Kashmiri - which, unfortunately, the Indians have failed to carry out despite 61 years of 'Independence'<BR/><BR/>You must also understand that while Kerala and Punjab and Maharashtra have exercised their rights to join the Indian Union out of free will, the Kashmiris - even after 61 years - are not being allowed to make their choice.<BR/><BR/>:-) While it may not solve all of India's problems, it'll definitely be a first step towards righting a historical wrong!<BR/><BR/>Ultimately, the choice must lie with the Kashmiris, neh?<BR/><BR/>@mercury: Yes, it's definitely a positive change.. Yet, it's nowhere near gaining the kind of momentun it deserves!<BR/><BR/>Whenever a moderate voice calls for reason.. there're far more extremist, jingoist cries of outrage.. and a need to keep their false pride.<BR/><BR/>:-)<BR/>Thanks for voicing your opinions!Yaamynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13486967702707441314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-19176005650476013382008-09-01T20:30:00.000+05:302008-09-01T20:30:00.000+05:30Yaamyn, I find this piece beautifully articulated....Yaamyn, I find this piece beautifully articulated. <BR/><BR/>Like you, I am surprised and glad as well that people are increasingly becoming a lot less het up by the very mention of 'azadi'. <BR/><BR/>While I feel a little too uninformed (having been away from India and the thick of things for a couple of years with only access to the foreign media and the internet) to accurately gauge how the general public feels about this, I <I>am</I> glad that there are sensible, moderate voices (like yours) that are being heard over all the political din.. <BR/><BR/>I'm glad our collective conscience finally seems to be kicking into gear (judging by how many blogs are talking about this) <BR/><BR/>Thanks for voicing this. It informed as well as opined.Mercuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15579662714228176010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12599307.post-83114729938084095842008-09-01T19:32:00.000+05:302008-09-01T19:32:00.000+05:30I think we are making a grave error in thinking th...I think we are making a grave error in thinking that secession of Kashmir will end all our troubles. I think that will be the beginning of the end. Why because it is common to hear Malayalis talk about Kerala being a separate state. And I have seen Maharashtra can be easily instigated to feel the same way. We have in our genes to fight with each other, that is all we have ever done and if Kashmir goes, apart from the bickering that will continue on the Jammu-Kashmir border, there will also be increased incidences of armed encroachment in Punjab and Rajasthan. No, I do not think any part of India should ever be seceded. Kashmir was not always like this, when my sister went to Kashmir in 1985 (I think), the animosity had just begun, and because we handled it so badly, with total disregard for human rights..it just kept getting worse. And this can happen in any part of India, no matter what the history of that place.<BR/>I am not talking of patriotism. I am just terrified of the consequences of any such secession. We are so ignorant we do not realise what will happen if this country breaks into little states...we will have Ranveer Senas, MNSenas, ShivSenas, Bajrang and VHPs ruling us. That will truly be the end.Indian Home Makerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649133480442907582noreply@blogger.com